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That's exactly it. The criteria is suppose to be over the entire body of work and not preferred treatment. UVA was regular season champs, lost three games by a total of 11 points, two of those without their best player and beat NC State and Miami, both who beat Duke. Everyone knows why the 1 seed went where it did.

Again, no Duke fan here, but you are saying one thing, regular-season title, should outweigh four different standards that we know the selection committee take into consideration for seeding purposes.

While obviously some programs get preferential treatment (like UCLA this season), I think there's a better argument, by considering the standards utilized by the selection committee as a whole, for Duke to be seeded over Virginia.

Virginia was the ACC Regular Season Champions. I am not saying that should automatically make them a 1. But there is no way that I can see someone jumping over them. I have looked back until 2001 and intend to look back further. I cannot find where a non conference champ either regular season or tourney jumped over the regular season champ. I will guarantee you that if the shoe was on the other foot Virginia would not jump over Duke.

Duke has a better RPI, better strength of schedule, better record in their last 12 games, and beat Virginia in their only head-to-head match-up, in Charlottesville. I'm no Duke fan, but combined that was a pretty big mountain for the Cavs to climb.

The point I was trying to make with my original statement about this was. Seeding is way too much about reputation. The teams that have been traditionally strong teams will get more consideration than they deserve on a consistent basis. UCLA got in and should not have. Carolina should have been a 5 and got a 4. Duke should have been a 2 and got a 1. Find three teams that can match the championship trophies of those three schools. Obviously there are people that will disagree with this statement, and that is great, but from my perspective, this NCAA bracket has more preferential treatment for blue bloods than I ever really remember.

And I still do not remember a time where someone got a 1 seed that did not win either the regular season or tourney championship unless there was a team in their conference that won both and was also a 1. I would be very interested if someone could point out to me who it was and what year it happened.

No hootone its not the first time, and it won't be the last.

No way Duke is a one over Virginia. Just goes back to the same old bs and who you are. First time someone has claimed the one and didn't win the regular or conference tournament championship. Says a lot about the selection committee, not knowing what they are doing. The seeds on a lot of the games are totally screwed up.

Sporting Guy I am fully aware of who they thought were going to be the top 4 seeds. I just do not understand it. Unlike you, I do not drink the ESPN kool aid and take to heart everything they say. I am an independent thinker. I knew as well as you did they were going to be a 1, I just do not think it is right, and for the record, I don't give a fat rats a__ what Mrs Willinham gets paid. I have said a hundred times, if I was interested in academics I would pull for Harvard or Yale. I am a basketball fan and could care less about the academics at Carolina. After all, I went to State. I pulled for Carolina before I went, while I was there, and every day since. I don't care what education anyone does or does not get. If they are eligible for post season play and win I am happy. If they are not, I am sad. If you want to talk basketball I am in. If you want to talk about who made what in English Lit. then you will probably need to bring that up with someone else.

Unc didn't win acc tournament, but dook fans and players were watching from home lol

How many sexual assaults will dook players commit between tournament games this year?

Did you not watch any television or read any articles over the past week?

The whole country knew Duke was a 1 and everyone stated so. UVA fell off the top line by losing two of their last three games and injuries have always been taken into consideration in the committees conversations.

About not remembering it ever happening a team not winning a conference title of any kind and getting a 1 seed, its happened, I believe they said it happened last in 2009.

If there is a person alive who didn't know the four #1 seeds then they haven't paid any attention at all.

Meanwhile, Mrs Willingham gets 6 years worth of salary for exposing the scandal and its ring leader.

On a different thread, I had talked about the traditional powers getting more consideration than they deserve. No way my heels should be seeded higher than a 5 but they end up a 4. I never remember a time where the the #2 team in the ACC gets a #1 seed without the #1 team in the league getting a 1 seed also. I might could have understood Duke getting a 1 if they won the tourney but they did not even make the finals. A real head scratcher for me how they completely jumped over Virginia. I realize that Duke might have played a better non conference schedule, but Virginia finished ahead of them in conference. I just have a little trouble with that one. But I guess it goes back to tradition, and it works both ways.

No that's funny, dook bracket would be harder with a bunch of high school team s in it. Dook gets #1 seed without reg. Season champion , didn't even make it to acc tournament final, but a 3rd seed unreal. Guess when k-rat head of coaches committee You get unfair treatment. Look even former dook player s say the refs give them calls

The battle of non-student athletes versus student non-athletes.

Actually, as a fan of the ACC, I don't mind that a good run through the tourney is rewarded...but yeah, UNC does get preferential treatment.

I just love an Ivy League school against the "Carolina Way." Priceless.

# 19 team in the country with 11 L's a #4 seed,now tell me the ncaa dont favor unc

Go Crimson

Man. Someone on the selection committee has a wicked sense of humor. Well played.