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Beachgoer---- talk about horseshoes? Lucky I'd say

No shouldawouldacoulda, I watched every minute of that game, and yes I realize that Duke won that game. I also watched them beat Virginia Tech in overtime and barely escape against Wake. I also watched the same wolfpack team that is getting drilled tonight by LSU, beat them. Are there any other games that you are curious if I watched. If there is let me know. All that was a few weeks before Virginia was crowned conference champions. Again, winning the regular season championship in the 2nd toughest conference in the country used to mean something. As I said earlier, I am not sure that Virginia is one of the 4 best teams in the country, but I don't think they deserve to be jumped by a 2nd place team that did not even make the finals of the tourney.

All the experts telling about unc being banned from tournament. Question---- how long have you guys/girls been on ncaa staff?? I'll wait till they say what unc gets then I'll believe it. No matter what happens funny part is abc fans think if Unc gets hammered that the fans are going to quite living.Lol. 2002-2010 they didn't make tourney, Guess what Sun came up next day. All the scandal stuff is a excuse cause unc team was better them years. The more practice is reason just BS. Some players are better no matter how much practice you get. That's like saying Joel James can practice 10 hours everyday for 5 years. Will he be as good as Jordan? Or LeBron? Come on just excuses. Alot of players grow up tar heels fans, kentucky- unc- Kansas has the three biggest fanbases in ncaa basketball. So not like they can't get recruits that want to come there.

Evidently UNC brought there horseshoe tonight...Lucky to escape.

Then you would have never committed if that was true. Carolina should enjoy this tournament because it looks like it could be the last one they are allowed to play in for a few years to come.

Was something wrong with your eyes when Duke beat Virginia in Charlottesville?

What part of the game am I not understanding from that result?

I eagerly await a detailed explanation of how Virginia deserves a number one based on the other four senses, by the way.

Totally agree old blue ridge!

Yea the reason that a lot of people don't like that method of evaluation is that it actually requires you to understand the game rather than look at a set of numbers or listen to ESPN experts.

Oh, the eye test lol.

Yea, the NCAA will adapt that system next year. What a **** joke.

My problem is that I am not real big on numbers like RPI and SOS because I think they use the polls to determine these numbers, and the polls are put together much the same that the seeds are just by the media rather than the selection committee. I am way more of a make my decision by what I see on the floor kind of guy. I do not think that Arkansas should be seeded above Carolina because the SEC other than Kentucky really stinks this year. However, I have watched both West Virginia and Utah this year and think they are both really good teams. I think Utah much like Gonzaga gets discounted because of strength of schedule but Utah is a better team than Carolina. The defense that West Virginia plays is relentless. It is full court from the opening tip until the end. They do not have a lot of really good offensive players, but they make up for it with that full court pressure.

I do base a lot of my opinions on winning hardware, maybe more than I should. If Carolina had beaten Notre Dame then I would not have thought that they were seeded too high if they were a 3, but they didn't which in my mind makes you look at entire body of work and the work just wasn't very good this year.

In reality, I do not think that Virginia is one of the best 4 teams in the country, particularly the way that they are playing now. However, they won the conference championship in what I think is the second best conference in the country this year. That is why, in my mind, they got the shaft. If Duke had beaten them in the conference tourney there would have been no complaint from me, but again championships mean a lot in my mind, and obviously more than they do in the selection committees mind.

Who deserves the 4 seed more than UNC?

West Virginia? Northern Iowa? Arkansas? Utah?

A case might could be made for Utah. They did finish 2nd in the Pac 12 which only put 4 teams in. But UNC wins RPI and SOS over the runnin utes.

I wonder, have you really studied the brackets to say UNC doesn't deserve a 4?

There are arguments every year, this year much less so in my opinion.

Dreamwalker--- funny Your screenname was started same day as your post. So your a troll that's has been posting under different names so I could careless about what you think.

I have been through the final 4 participants from last year back to 1999 and cannot find a time where a non champ jumped over a champ from the same conference for a 1 seed. Maybe I am missing something. My argument is strictly between UVA and Duke. Do I think Arizona is probably more deserving? Sure, but the case is weaker. I think lots of the criteria that has been pointed out on here are used and have always been used. But the most overwhelming criteria, or biggest difference maker is the name on the front of the shirt. This is not one of my normally biased views against Duke, I have said many times below that it also benefits my tarheels. It did this year and has many times in the past. I am just not sure that it is fair and equitable. The job that the selection committee has is a very difficult one. Not only do they have to decide who does and who does not get in, but they also have to rank them to come up with the seeds. Even though I pull for a school that many times benefits from this inequity, I would like to see it stopped. Each team should live on what they did this year not last year or the year before. Maybe I am the only one that feels that way. And please sporting guy remember that the channel from where your so called experts work is ESPN. They employ Seth Greenburg and D*** Vitale. When I hear people of that magnitude referred to as experts, I throw up in my mouth. LOL

UNC greatest Do you realize that the smartest part of you ran down the crack of a really nice woman 9 months before you were born You must be the most ignorant one human being that has ever typed a sentence on a public thread before You show your ignorance each time you get on here Please for the sake of humanity grow up.

Make your case for Gonzaga lol.

Fact is duke should have not gotten a one seed. Arizona, Gonzaga or UVA should have. Always been preferred treatment give to Duke, everyone who isn't a fan of there's know this.

shouldawouldacoulda you can forget the common sense talk, it doesn't work around here.

Guys, with all due respect, I don't think you're looking at this objectively. We've together named five criteria we assume the committee looks at to determine seeding: RPI, SOS, last 12 games, head-to-head, and conference championships. Duke wins four out of those five; those are the numbers, the facts, and they don't lie. Plus, you can't talk about entire body of work and who beat who, etc. and then omit the fact Duke beat Virginia. And if RPI is the gauge of the body of work, Duke's RPI is better than Virginia's. These, again, are facts.

Duke also got the easiest bracket again. As the 3rd #1 seed how's that happen? I don't like Kentucky but being truthful they should have got dook bracket for going 34-0. Just like 2010 dook had the easiest bracket in ncaa tourney history. Guess k-rat being head of coaches committee and coach USA helps the rat out in ncaa seeds.

I'm pretty sure oldblueridge the last time was 2009.

I wasn't listening closely but that's what they said, and also said it has happened other times.

Just telling you what the experts said, I don't know and dont' care who, when, or where.