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Not posting player stats is a dang shame

northwest4ever

Posted 3:32 pm, 01/05/2015

I did not know about max preps and individual stats until this post. What a neat thing it is for the kids to have their performance put on there for the world.

Such a shame that everyone does not do this. Good for the kids, their families, and the fans who may not be able to attend each game.

Mikewho

Posted 7:38 pm, 12/28/2014

Yet another coach has decided to do the right thing. On behalf of the starmount players, special thanks to the coaching staff at starmount for doing the right thing. We now have 1/2 of the conference coaches doing what is right. We are now only left with the staffs at North, Central, West, and Elkin.

Come on guys, one by one coaches are signing on. Do it for your kids. You cant go wrong doing the right thing.

Mikewho

Posted 9:24 am, 12/24/2014

Well maybe I did not fail. Thank you East Wilkes coaching staff for caring more about your players than you do yourself. I am sure your players appreciate it.

Mikewho

Posted 9:00 am, 12/19/2014

Players, I am truly sorry that it appears I have failed you. I had hoped that if someone pointed out that your coaches were not taking advantage of an opportunity for you, that some of them would have a conscious but after 4 days and no results, I am sorry to say that most of you will not be receiving the recognition that you deserve. In life there are normally 2 ways to deal with things, and we have these decisions every day. You can either do what is right or you can do what is easy. With the exception of Alleghany and Ashe, it appears the easy route has been chosen. Please continue to work hard and give your coaches the commitment that they are asking for from you. If you want long term consistent success less than a total commitment to what you are doing will not get you where you want to go, and I wish each athlete the best of luck in both your athletic endeavors and life.

Mikewho

Posted 3:31 pm, 12/17/2014

I replied before I was ready so I continue. A college coach cannot get tape from every school in the country but in a very few minutes he can develop a list of kids that the numbers indicate meet his needs. He can then request tape. Do you really not think that college coaches look at it? People confuse D3 and lower D2 with D1. The process of identifying athletes is totally different because the level of talent is different. If you don't want kids to potentially be found then don't put it on there.

Again raw numbers do not make a scouting report. I can assure you that I can give you a better scouting report on any team in the MVC than u can get off of raw stats on max preps.

I need someone to answer this question. Do the kids deserve the recognition? Check the box Yes or No

Mikewho

Posted 3:01 pm, 12/17/2014

Maybe u misunderstood me. I said that there is all the free scouting reports out there that u need. and raw numbers do not serve the purpose of a scouting report.

Justify all u want. The kids deserve it.

bballfan

Posted 2:26 pm, 12/17/2014

Just so I'm clear. A high school coach isn't going to use Max preps to scout a team (after all, he only has to request tape), but a college coach is going to use it for a recruitment tool(guess a college coach can't get the same highlight tapes)? Now that don't make a lot of sense to me. If I was a high school coach and pulled up Max preps and seen that player A averages 25 points a game, player B averages 20 points a game, and player c-whatever averages 5 points a game, I have my game plan. Let's stop A and B and we have a good shot to win.

Mikewho

Posted 12:42 pm, 12/17/2014

Thanks for that Humble. You had me confused. Actually all that the NCHSAA requires is that they put in their team scores. They are not required by the state to put stats in. I just wish they could separate what they are required to do, from what they should do.

At the end of the day, I am not a player and I don't have a kid playing so it really is not gonna hurt me either way. What does matter to me are the kids. I was a player many years ago, and I know what it would have meant to me to have this information published, but in the stone ages that I played in there were no computers, and certainly no internet or Maxpreps.

Imagine a D3 coach who really needed a point guard next year that could pass the basketball and defend. He might not have time to go to every 1A game in the state to find that player, but he might find kids that he was interested in via the stat leaders on Maxpreps. He could then contact a kid that he would have never known about. The kid then gets the opportunity to fulfill a life long dream that he might not have got a chance to fulfill any other way. Or maybe its just as simple as a kid gets to pull up his numbers off maxpreps and show them to his uncle and his grandpa that never get to see him play.

Maybe I am in the minority here, but I REALLY think the kids deserve the opportunity to have this information published

If coaches really cannot come up with 30 minutes per game for the benefit of their kids, then I am sorry that I asked. If you are not willing to do it for your kids because you are afraid of giving a free scouting report. WOW! where are ur priorities?

Kids are different than the kids of the past, but one thing has not changed. In most examples, you will get the effort back out of them that you put into them.

HumblePie

Posted 12:18 pm, 12/17/2014

Sorry, I was responding to the jack arse who mentioned something about Wilkes County, as if Alleghany, Ashe, Surry or Yadkin was any better. Please!!! The NCHSAA has stated it is required to put in results for teams on Maxpreps. Maxpreps officially represents the NCHSAA so any coach not abiding by this is in the wrong anyways.

Mikewho

Posted 11:38 am, 12/17/2014

Michst I can assure you that I am very aware of what it takes to be a coach. Seems amazing that other schools are able to do it.

Its all about commitment to what you are doing. Its about the same commitment that you ask for from your players.

Since I assume that all teams keep stats, the inputing into max preps will take an estimated 30 minutes per game. 15 minutes each for a coach and his assistant. If schools are not keeping stats, then I wonder how they are able to effectively communicate to the players on their past performances.

Sorry to ask for the commitment level to go both ways. Probably unfair of me LOL

MichSt66

Posted 11:22 am, 12/17/2014

Do you guys know how much time that takes? Go sit in the shoes of a coach that also teaches and see how much time you have to do stuff like that.

Mikewho

Posted 10:57 am, 12/17/2014

If you really think that coaches get a scouting report from stats you are dreaming. To get a scouting report, you have to see how someone does something not what they do. In todays technological age, if you want film on a team all you have to do is ask someone else. The free scouting reports are available if you want one.

From my standpoint, this is a very weak reason/excuse for not giving the players the recognition that they deserve. You can find points in the paper, for the schools that even choose to do that, but what about the kid who contributes through assists, steals, or rebounds. Where does his recognition come from.

Again, the kids do the work. They deserve the recognition.

bballfan

Posted 10:35 am, 12/17/2014

Why give other coaches a free scouting report? They are required to put in scores, not stats. Look in the paper, they normally put in the stat lines.

Mikewho

Posted 10:06 am, 12/17/2014

Humble what exactly did that comment have to do with this thread. We are talking about coaches not doing what they should in terms of reporting.

HumblePie

Posted 7:23 pm, 12/16/2014

Lol funny considering WC has had more success than any other team in the conference. And I don't want to hear about North Wilkes's state championship in 1776.

redfly

Posted 7:09 pm, 12/16/2014

The High Schools in the Wilkes County area are to Sorry to update their on Websites let alone Maxpreps.

Mikewho

Posted 12:39 pm, 12/16/2014

Went to maxpreps to see how all the kids were doing in basketball this year and was very confused. There was only individual stats on there for 2 teams. Alleghany and Ashe have their kids accomplishments posted and everyone else in the conference does not. Wow! what a shame. Kids are expected to be in the gym or the weight room in the off season. They are expected to go to camp and work individually on their games. They are expected to be at every practice and work their rear end off. Yet when they have 12 assists one night or heck maybe it was only 2 their coach chooses not to put it out their for people. This is really unfortunate and selfish. The site is free, and every coach has to use it because the State requires them to post their scores on there, yet they do not care enough about their kids to post their stats for the world to see.

Seems a bit one-sided, selfish, and very unfortunate to me that some coaches expect so much from their kids and are not willing to spend the 15 minutes to post their accomplishments. Kids naturally want to see their accomplishments published whether it is in the paper, the internet, or on the wall. High School sports is about the kids. Why cheat them out of this opportunity. Come on guys, do the right thing.

To the coaches that respect their kids enough to do this. Thanks on behalf of your players and the communities that care about them.

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